awiesenhofer 9 months ago

Oh wow, this will be a gamechanger on rsnapshot, restic, etc. Basically every backup workload - can't wait!

cb5r 9 months ago

Very interesting feature! Can anyone think of a real world use case for this?

  • anotherhue 9 months ago

    Instantiating VMs from snapshots I assume.

    • allanjude 9 months ago

      There are a few different use cases, but cloning a VM image file is definitely a popular one.

      Also, `mv` between different filesystems in the same ZFS pool. Traditionally when crossing filesystems doesn't allow just using `rename()`, `mv` resorted to effectively `cp` then `rm`, so at least temporarily required 2x the space, and that space might not be freed for a long time if you have snapshots.

      With BRT, the copy to the 2nd filesystem doesn't need to write anything more than a bit of metadata, and then when you remove the source copy, it actually removes the BRT entry, so there is no long-term overhead.

      One of the original developer's use cases was restoring a file from a snapshot, without having to copy it and have it take up additional space.

      So you make a file (foo) 2 days ago. You change it each day. Today, the change you made was bad, and you want to restore the version from yesterday.

      before BRT: you copied the file from the snapshot back to the live filesystem, and it took up all new space.

      after BRT: we reference the existing blocks in the snapshot, so the copy to the live filesystem takes no additional space on disk. A small BRT entry is maintained in memory (and on disk).

      If you remove the snapshot, the BRT entry is removed, and the file remains intact. No long term overhead.

JackSlateur 9 months ago

tldr: zfs implemented reflinking (in their own way, not through VFS, sadly)

  • allanjude 9 months ago

    There are advantages to doing the cloning at the block level, rather than the VFS layer. The feature was originally written for FreeBSD using the copy_file_range() syscall, then extended to work with the existing interfaces in Linux from btrfs.

burnte 9 months ago

New account, no comments, two submissions to klarasystems.com. Seems like a marketing account.

  • PaulCarrack 9 months ago

    Perhaps, but still an informative article. Historically, Rob Norris and Klara Systems have contribute a good deal of features and needed bug fixes into OpenZFS.

    • burnte 9 months ago

      I have no doubt, I was just pointing out the account seems fishy.

      • tinyhands 9 months ago

        I do work at Klara, but I'm a long-time lurker who finally decided to make an account. We are starting to post articles and whatnot again so thought I'd share.