hacsky a day ago

Donald Kendall started as a worker in a Pepsi-Cola bottling plant, but he swiftly climbed the corporate ladder, becoming head of the company’s international division by 1957 when he was only in his mid-30s.

I wonder if that career path is still possible today?

  • swatcoder a day ago

    Be a standout employee in a rapidly growing and transforming company, stepping into increasingly significant roles as opportunies expand?

    Of course. Countless people on this very forum have taken that road and countless so are still doing so today.

    But not everyone is able to make their mark as a standout employee, not everyone commits to one organization long enough to see it through (passing up on other opportities), and and not every organization grows or even survives well enough to open those doors to them.

    It's common, but neither universal nor guaranteed -- and always has been. While the culture of loyalty (in both directions) has certainly changed over time and likely represents changes in how common, it's a misperception to not notice it still happening every day.

    • pyuser583 11 hours ago

      The “rapidly growing” part is really important.

  • arethuza 15 hours ago

    The military historian Richard Holmes pointed out in one of his books that at the height of UK imperial power someone managed to rise from private soldier to Field Marshall and Chief of the Imperial General Staff and that apparently today an equivalent rise would be impossible:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_William_Robertson,_1st_Bar...

    • cafard 8 hours ago

      James Gavin made it from private soldier to Lieutenant General from 1924 to 1958.

      John Vessey enlisted in the Minnesota National Guard in 1939, and became Chief of Staff of the US Army in 1982.

    • ywvcbk 3 hours ago

      > that apparently today an equivalent rise would be impossible

      There is still a pathway for enlisted servicemen to become officers in the British army. So technically it should be possible?

    • psunavy03 8 hours ago

      Absolutely untrue, at least in a US context. Michael Boorda rose from the bottom of the enlisted ranks to become Chief of Naval Operations in the 1990s.

  • Tiktaalik 7 hours ago

    I think this sort of thing is still very possible in the Games Industry.

    The most accessible job is QA Tester, paid an hourly wage and accessible to anyone really[1]. Anyone that shows themselves to be smart and useful very strongly has an ability to move into Production/Product Management, especially if they're at a smaller studio.

    From there, Production is one of those really weirdo jobs where at its lowest rungs you're doing things that no one really wants to do, like taking notes in meetings and filling out Jira tasks, but the top of the Production job chart is Executive Producer or Studio General Manager with substantial sway around the strategic direction of a game or studio and pay to match.

    In contrast the Art/Programming paths achieve much higher pay and interesting work at the low end, but also have a lower ceiling in terms of sway and pay.

    [1] Anyone that understands what a video game is and plays them of course. Though at this point I'm sure people with some sort of indie game dev experience have an edge in hiring.

  • flak48 a day ago

    A similar but more recent career trajectory: Elliot Hill, the incoming Nike CEO started at Nike as a store sales intern and was already head of Nike EMEA retail by around age 34 (in the year 2000)

    • SoftTalker a day ago

      Yes it's possible. You need really good social and political skills, and a somewhat ruthless approach. Sociopathic tendencies, in other words.

      • BobbyTables2 a day ago

        Must require excellent golf skills too.

  • d1sxeyes 17 hours ago

    Watch out for survivorship bias here. How many people worked in the bottling plants who did NOT become CEO?

    A bit of Fermi maths here: the Pepsi Bottling Group had about 70K employees before it was bought by PepsiCo. Assuming a management/admin/support layer of about 50%, you've got maybe 35K employees directly engaged in bottling. This was only one of a multitude of bottling companies, but let's assume for now that while other bottling companies produce for other companies too there's probably no easy path from supplier to parent company unless the supplier is effectively a subsidiary.

    From 1957 to today is 67 years. F&B turnover is around 75%, so we're talking about ~25 000 new employees/year for 67 years, which is around 1.8 million.

    When you look at this astronomic career progression as a one-in-two-million event, it seems a bit less implausible.

    Now for a bit of a silly tangent: there are around 33 million businesses in the USA now, and around 330 million people, which means around one business for every 10 people. Assuming each one of those companies has a distinct CEO (big assumption here), we'd find around 180 000 CEOs who once worked in a Pepsi bottling plant. It would almost be a surprise if one of those 180 000 was NOT the CEO of Pepsi.

  • crop_rotation a day ago

    That career path is still possible today, but it never was commonplace as the example makes one think.

  • ies7 a day ago

    IMO most companies under $1B in top 5 population countries treat head of international division just the same with their head of regional.

    So 35-40 years old leaders are common.

  • naming_the_user 10 hours ago

    Sure.

    It’s just statistically unlikely if you look at random people because, well, there are very few huge companies to climb.

    Life is a big old competition.

  • tossandthrow a day ago

    I think there are areas today, where you can rapidly grow and in 60 years we will look back and think to ourselves how that was possible.

throw2389238909 a day ago

> 7 submarines would have tied with India for possessing the seventh-largest fleet of attack submarines.

> Yet in any real sense the story is false. What PepsiCo acquired were small, old, obsolete, unseaworthy vessels.

Or perhaps compare it to junk Ukrainian army got! Old tanks, fighter jets salvaged from junkyard (Kazakshan) or just before decommission...

Weapons that would give it a fighting chance (F35 and nuclear warheads) were never even mentioned!

  • tgaj a day ago

    How would giving Ukraine nuclear warheads solve anything?

    • somat a day ago

      A sizeable part of the soviet nuclear arsenal and most of their front line Tu-160 strategic bombers were in Ukraine when the union collapsed. Ukraine was persuaded to give up their nuclear capability. and sold the Tu-160's back to Russia.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-160

      Not that this has anything to do with your question, I just thought it a fun fact.

    • Y_Y a day ago

      It could solve life on earth

    • kadoban a day ago

      Has a nuclear power ever been on the receiving end of a war?

      • arethuza 15 hours ago

        1982 invasion of the Falkland Islands

        Yom Kippur War

      • nradov a day ago

        Yes. Pakistan started the Kargil War with India in 1999 which was shortly after India had tested their first nuclear weapon.

    • preisschild 11 hours ago

      It would create a credible deterrence against Russia using tactical nukes

      And also they had given the strategic bombers used for nuclear weapons deployment back to Russia, which are now using them to bomb Ukrainian apartments and hospitals.

underlogic a day ago

art is clearly generated but model gets no credit. I think that's pretty outrageous

  • MrGreenTea a day ago

    What art are you referring to? I only see photographs that are credited (on mobile)

    Do you mean the navy cap with the Pepsi logo? It's credited as an illustration. In 2021 the Text-to-image models also weren't that good yet, or did I miss something?

    • underlogic a day ago

      yep navy cap was "illustrated" but not by the "artist". afaics, although it would be so much more tragic if the artist actually created the image. just can't win